In this deeply honest and nourishing episode, Linda and Heather sit down again with our dear friend Cecile Terrillon for a conversation on capacity: what it is, how we lose it, and how we rebuild it slowly, gently, and sustainably over time. We explore the nervous system’s role in capacity, the impact of grief and motherhood, and how life often forces us to slow down when we won’t do it ourselves. This episode is a gentle invitation to honor your humanity, feel what you’ve been avoiding, and start again, with 1% more space than before.

We Chat About:

• What “capacity” really means and why it matters in creative and everyday life
• Cecile’s personal story of burnout, estrangement, and starting over from the ground up
• How to identify when you’re outside your capacity (even if you’re high-functioning)
• Why resistance, grief, and discomfort often arise when we try to slow down
• Building capacity in the body through nervous system work and micro-moments of rest
• The difference between numbing and true rest—and why we don’t have to judge the former
• How desire and frustration coexist when your capacity doesn’t match your ambition
• What sustainable growth looks like across different areas of life, including movement, business, and motherhood
• A behind-the-scenes update on what’s shifting with the podcast and the Jumping Bean Magic Collective

Our Guest:

Cécile Terrillon is an embodiment teacher and medicine woman who challenges the societal norm of forcing and pushing to stay productive at all costs, and instead - invites us into resting, slowing down, and investing into the health and stability of our bodies and nervous systems.

By reconnecting to our body’s boundaries and navigating the relationship between capacity and desire, we begin to halt the patterns of people pleasing, performing, and proving ourselves. It is from this place that we discover who we are underneath the masks, and gain capacity to share and express ourselves authentically.

Through deep listening and emotional attunement, Cécile holds her clients with tenderness and love through the fears that accompany this work, yet brilliantly calls forth the truth you already know and cannot ignore.

Connect with Cecile:

Instagram: @cecile.terrillon

Jumping Bean Magic Collective:

www.jumpingbeanmagiccollective.com

Instagram: @jumpingbeanmagiccollective

Linda Lewis:

www.lindalewcreative.com

Heather Manwaring:

www.heathermanwaring.com

Chapters:

00:00 – Welcome + Introduction

01:00 – What Is Capacity? Cecile’s Framework

03:00 – Burnout, Disconnection, and the Journey to Rest

08:00 – The Vow to Never Force Again

11:00 – Cecile’s Rock Bottom and the Truth of Tiny Capacity

15:00 – Starting Where You Are (Even If That Means the Floor)

20:00 – The Practice of Pausing + Listening to the Body

24:00 – Feeling Grief and Exhaustion Without Overwhelm

28:00 – What to Do When Life Requires You to Override

30:00 – Releasing Unfelt Emotions to Create More Space

33:00 – Technology as Numbing + The Power of Choosing Presence

35:00 – Raising Capacity Through Micro-Decisions

41:00 – Frustration, Desire, and the Grief of Limits

45:00 – Building Capacity Gently: Cecile’s Movement Journey

53:00 – From

Jumping Bean Magic Collective:

www.jumpingbeanmagiccollective.com

Linda Lewis:

www.lindalewcreative.com

Heather Manwaring:

www.heathermanwaring.com