In college, Sara taught seminars instructing other young women on how to not get murdered: avoid parking lots after midnight, don’t stop for strangers, carry mace. Now she’s a devoted true crime podcast listener, one of the many women who make up nearly 75% of the genre’s fan base.

Grace and Kyleigh delve into true crime podcasting’s glaring gender divide. Why are so many women — including domestic violence survivors — seeking out this content? What does this have to do with the historical origins of true crime? Why do we get so freaked out in parking lots? Media experts Dr. Ian Punnett and Dr. Kelli Boling sit down with the hosts to try and shed some light on these mysteries.

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“‘I’m Not a Journalist…:’ Journalistic Ethics in True Crime Podcast Production,” Kelli S. Boling, 2022.

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artwork: alexandre p. manko