You saw the reaction—now let’s go a little deeper as we officially welcome our very first guest to the couch: Sam Rosenthal. This week, we dive into (you guessed it) more Ariana Grande lore, including how a single photo of her literally sparked the beginning of Sam and Daniel’s friendship.

We share our favorite highlights from her career, reflect on a few moments from our own, and—on a more serious note—talk about the winding paths of friendship, handling rejection, and what it means to grow as a human being.

All that, plus plenty more pink couch conversation in our sweet sixteenth episode!

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