For two glorious years, generative AI held sway as the AI darling among ERP vendors. But impressive as Gen AI might be, it's mostly limited to generating content and not really capable of the process management and decision making needed to reach the holy grail of AI: Fully autonomous artificial intelligence.

That level of technological innovation is the promise of so-called agentic AI: smart "agents," such as AI-driven chatbots and robotic process automation (RPA), that can perform tasks autonomously, make decisions and learn from experience. In recent months agentic AI has become the new vanguard of AI innovation in business applications. Major vendors, among them Salesforce, Oracle and SAP, have eagerly rolled out agentic AI to their customers.

In the podcast, Brian McKenna, enterprise applications editor at Informa TechTarget's London-based ComputerWeekly, reports on the latest AI trends and shares his takeaways from conferences he attended this month: the Salesforce TDX 2025 developer conference in San Francisco, followed by Oracle and NetSuite conferences in London.

McKenna covers business applications, information management and cybersecurity topics for ComputerWeekly. He holds a degree in History and English from the University of Glasgow and a doctorate from the University of Oxford.

Other topics discussed in the podcast include:

• the strong similarities between the agentic AI approaches of Salesforce and Oracle
• NetSuite's more cautious approach to agentic AI
• how these AI offerings compare to those of SAP, the ERP market leader

Host: David Essex, Industry Editor, Informa TechTarget

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It's been said that the main job of a chief information officer is "keeping the lights on" – making sure an organization's IT systems are up to date, reliable and running smoothly. But CIOs of software vendors sometimes play an additional role as early users of products under development. The approach is often called Customer Zero, "drinking your own champagne" or "eating your own dog food," and advocates say it can improve innovation and quality control in products and services and boost customer satisfaction.

In the podcast, Sumit Johar, CIO of Blackline, a Los Angeles-based maker of cloud-based accounting and finance software, shares his experiences with the Customer Zero method. He also discusses the role of machine learning and generative AI in Blackline's internal IT automation and digital transformation efforts, the insights that were gained and how they affect product development.

Johar was previously CIO of Automation Anywhere, a provider of AI-based robotic process automation, and mobile security vendor MobileIron, now part of Ivanti.

Other topics discussed in the podcast include:

• the business processes where AI has the biggest impact
• why AI poses a threat to compliance and security but also offers solutions
• whether increased use of AI will cause significant job loss
• how employees can prepare themselves to stay ahead of the AI curve

Host: David Essex, Industry Editor, Informa TechTarget

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A case can be made that for the past decade and a half, SAP has been almost entirely focused on two things: getting customers to adopt its next-generation ERP platform, S/4HANA, and shifting its development efforts from on-premises systems to the cloud – and getting customers to follow.

Now, with the calendar turned to 2025, the December 31, 2027 deadline -- when SAP says it will stop supporting legacy on-premises ECC and R/3 systems, in effect requiring most customers to upgrade to S/4HANA -- looms uncomfortably near. A Gartner survey shows most have yet to make the move.

SAP enters the new year having struggled through a 2024 that presented its own challenges. The vendor underwent major personnel shakeups as three C-level executives left the company, legendary cofounder Hasso Plattner retired, and 10,000 employees were moved into strategic initiatives – primarily AI -- or left after being bought out.

SAP customers and industry analysts will be looking to see if SAP can stabilize its management structure and re-establish trust with its employees. At the same time, SAP will face more pressure than ever to show progress on getting customers to move to S/4HANA and the cloud.

In this podcast, Jim O'Donnell, senior news writer at Informa TechTarget's SearchSAP website, joins host David Essex to discuss last year's developments and their impact on SAP and its customers going forward. They also analyze the effectiveness of the Rise with SAP and Grow with SAP programs in guiding customers on a path to S/4HANA Cloud, and what SAP must do to right the ship and show more progress in moving customers to S/4HANA and the cloud.

Other topics discussed in the podcast include:

• the impact of SAP'S promise to limit major innovations to the two cloud versions of S/4HANA
• how confusion over S/4HANA migration could benefit competitors like Oracle and Workday
• whether SAP might extend the 2027 deadline

Host: David Essex, Industry Editor, Informa TechTarget

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