In this raw and honest episode, Julie and Steve sit down with Trevor and Barclay for a heartfelt conversation about the messy overlap between alcohol abuse and depression, and the long road to healing.

Each of them opens up about their personal struggles—what it feels like to hit emotional rock bottom, how they found their way back, and the daily practices that help them stay grounded. You’ll hear stories of isolation, humor used as a lifeline, and the slow, patient work of rebuilding mental health without alcohol.

There’s no toxic positivity here—just real talk about how hard it can be to keep going when nothing seems to be working, and why showing up for yourself (and others) matters more than you think.

Please note: Multiple guests discuss their experiences with suicidal ideation. Please exercise caution when deciding to listen to this episode.

Key points in this episode:

• Hitting emotional rock bottom and the loneliness that comes with it
• Why depression can be so sneaky, especially in sobriety
• Using humor to cope without bypassing the pain
• How to keep taking action—even when it feels pointless
• The power of medication, therapy, and reaching out for help
• Learning to sit with emotions without drinking to escape
• Why listening without judgment can be the most powerful thing we offer each other

If you’ve ever felt like you “should” be okay but you’re not, this one’s for you. You are not alone.

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To learn more about our guests, view the full show notes at https://throughtheglassrecovery.com/podcast/alcohol-abuse-and-depression/

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If you are struggling with depression or suicidal ideation, please contact SAMHSA. They are trained to help you. 1-800-662-HELP (4357)

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For information about 1:1 Recovery Coaching, visit https://throughtheglassrecovery.com/recovery-coaching/