Aviva and Stephany catch up on what’s going on – Stephany’s travels, her new baby cows, Aviva has a potential buyer for Ralphie!

Aviva has an amazing question from Alex about conformation, effort and how that is recognized in a test. She gives us a lot to think about with her answer – are you riding a 6 mover? Are you a 6 rider? What is a good expectation for an average horse, and where are there places that you can shine no matter what?

Mark talks about his background and how he came into the natural horsemanship world. He discusses different ways to think about helping your horse into a better mental state, what he really means when he says pressure, and how even our dressage horses could feel better if we changed our approach a little. It is a fascinating interview with lots of places where we tie his work into dressage examples, so take a listen! Feel free to let us know your thoughts, and if you have further questions for Mark.

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