In this engaging episode of the Data Malarkey Podcast, Master Data Storyteller and host Sam Knowles welcomes Cecilia Dones, a thought leader in data, AI, and human connection. Ceci explores how technology shapes the way we interact, trust, and build relationships—both online and offline. She shares insights into AI ethics, uncertainty in machine learning, and why trust is the cornerstone of all our digital futures.

From her work in AI ethics to her philosophy on leadership and adaptability, Ceci provides fresh perspectives on the best ways to navigate the ever-evolving world of artificial intelligence. Tune in for a thought-provoking discussion on data, trust, and what it means to be human in the age of AI.

What you'll learn in this episode:

• Why trust in digital interactions is becoming harder to establish

• The role of AI in shaping human relationships and decision-making

• How uncertainty in AI responses from LLMs may be an advantage not a weakness

• The power of adaptability and why labels limit creativity

• Why leaders need to embrace ambiguity in the AI era

Chapters:

00:00 - Introduction
01:27 - Cecilia Dones on connections and human-centred technology
07:43 - Why trust in digital spaces is complicated
13:53 - How AI influences our relationships and decision-making
20:02 - The challenge of uncertainty in AI models
30:36 - Leadership, adaptability, and embracing ambiguity
39:07 - No Labels: Why Ceci avoids definitions and fixed roles
45:00 - The ethical dilemmas of AI, privacy, and consent
50:30 - Where Cecilia Dones is sharing her work and insights

About our guest:

Cecilia Dones is a data and analytics practitioner-academic, founder of 3 Standard Deviations, with expertise spanning Fortune 500 companies and academia. She specialises in AI applications, technology's impact on human interactions, and bridging data insights across sectors. Currently, she is completing her doctoral studies on interpersonal trust in digital environments. She holds degrees from NYU Stern and Columbia University. She has taught at top business schools and authors the "Authentic Interactions" newsletter on Substack exploring technology, data, authenticity, and trust.

Resources mentioned:

• Cecilia Dones’ Substack: Authentic Interactions

• Ceci’s LinkedIn newsletter “What is a CMO to do with AI?”

• Data Storytelling Scorecard: data-storytelling.scoreapp.com

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• Take the Data Storytelling Scorecard: data-storytelling.scoreapp.com

• Follow the podcast for more insights on AI, data, and leadership

Connect with us:

• Cecilia Dones: LinkedIn | Substack blog – https://authenticinteractions.substack.com

• Sam Knowles: LinkedIn

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In this thought-provoking episode of the Data Malarkey Podcast, master data storyteller Sam Knowles sits down with Sylvie Delacroix, the inaugural Jeff Price Chair in Digital Law in the Dickson Poon School of Law at King’s College London. Sylvie shares her insights into data ethics, the vulnerabilities we face in a data-driven world, and the transformative potential of generative AI. She also introduces the Centre for Data Futures, her initiative to build participatory data infrastructure that empowers individuals and communities. This is a conversation about ethics, identity, and the future of AI that you won’t want to miss.

What you'll learn in this episode:

• The hidden vulnerabilities of our daily data leaks.

• How AI can both limit and empower personal reinvention.

• Why participatory infrastructure is essential for ethical AI development.

• The concept of ‘humility markers’ in AI and their potential to transform conversations.

• How Sylvie’s work bridges the gap between theory and practice in digital law and data ethics.

Chapters:
00:00 - Introduction
01:27 - Sylvie Delacroix’s journey and research focus
07:43 - The vulnerability of self in the data-driven age
13:53 - Building participatory data infrastructures
20:02 - Rethinking AI and conversational models
30:36 - The importance of humility markers in AI
39:07 - The future of ethical AI: aspirations and hopes

About our guest:
Sylvie Delacroix is a leading expert in digital law and ethics. As the Jeff Price Chair in Digital Law at King’s College London, Professor Delacroix directs the Centre for Data Futures, focusing on participatory data infrastructure and ethical governance of AI. Her work on data trusts and habitual ethics has shaped policy initiatives worldwide. To learn more about her work, visit https://delacroix.uk

Resources mentioned:

• Sylvie Delacroix’s home page https://delacroix.uk

• The Center for Data Futures https://www.kcl.ac.uk/research/centre-for-data-futures

• The Dickson Poon School of Law at King’s College, London https://www.kcl.ac.uk/law

• Sylvie’s book, Habitual Ethics?, available via Bloomsbury (open-access) https://www.bloomsburycollections.com/monograph?docid=b-9781509920440

• Sam Knowles’ book, Asking Smarter Questions: How to be an Agent of Insight https://asksmarterqs.com

• Find Out What Kind of Data Storyteller you are: https://data-storytelling.scoreapp.com/

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• Take the Data Storytelling Scorecard: https://data-storytelling.scoreapp.com

• Follow the podcast for more insightful conversations on data and AI

Connect with us:

• Sylvie Delacroix: King’s College London Profile, LinkedIn profile

• Sam Knowles: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samknowlesdatastory

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