Recorded April 14, 2025

I chat with Brian, a former MBA student of mine when I taught at NYU Stern. We talk about trading crypto vs. stocks, the tokenization of attention and people, implications of AI for the future, and finding a fulfilling career.

Amazon link to my book: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C5N6F1FV

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00:42 -- Getting whipsawed in the stock and crypto markets

02:34 -- Bryan being drawn to gold

06:49 -- How the US is using crypto to maintain USD dominance

07:37 -- Playing stocks vs. crypto to get rich

17:42 -- The need to believe in your trades

20:50 -- The perception of the US has changed

29:52 -- How do you tokenize attention?

35:16 -- Tokenizing yourself

42:26 -- Examples of celebrities tokenizing

45:42 -- Will people be valued more than AI?

46:56 -- AI companionship

52:23 -- The dark side of AI

54:59 -- Why centralized AI might dominate decentralized AI

01:00:05 -- Where will AI replace jobs?

01:03:42 -- The coming creativity explosion

01:13:48 -- Challenges in teaching creativity

01:26:27 -- Brian discovers most people don't like their job

01:33:08 -- Is grit good when doing something you hate?

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Note: We started recording a few minutes after our conversation started.

Disclaimer: The content in this recording is for entertainment purposes only and nothing we say should be considered financial advice.

Correction: I make a math error early on at 03:15. The last time there was a major financial system restructuring (end of the Bretton Woods system and the beginning of fiat currency) was in the early 1970s, which I somehow calculated as being 80 years ago. It was 54 years ago.