"Mommy needs a drink."

It's become an all too popular refrain. Go to any Home Goods store or flea market, and you'll find the signs, hand towels, and artwork that declares that not only do moms need a drink, but they deserve a drink. That's the trap that Jenn fell into as she was raising her children. And today, she's doing all she can to expose the dangers and lies of mommy wine culture.

In this important episode of Confessions of a Christian Alcoholic, I sit down with my friend Jenn Kautsch, founder of the popular Sober Sis community. We unpack the subtle but destructive influence of "mommy wine culture," what it means to be a gray area drinker, and how Jenn’s life began to unravel—quietly and internally—even while she was doing all the “right” things as a church-going, high-performing mom. In fact, she had even served on staff of the Christian organization Cru (formerly Campus Crusade for Christ).

Jenn shares her story with honesty and grace, from her first glass of white zin to what she calls the “bottle breakdown.” We talk about how she went from hiding her anxiety and drinking behind a well-curated Christian life to becoming a leader and voice of freedom for thousands of women. Her insights into perfectionism, identity, and internal family systems (IFS) therapy are incredibly powerful.

We explore:

• The rise and lies of mommy wine culture

• The trap of being a “high-functioning” drinker

• How gray area drinking can differ from the traditional understanding of alcoholism

• Why slipping doesn’t mean sliding

• What it looks like to live a divided mind—and how to begin healing

• How Sober Sis is creating a shame-free space for sober-minded women

Whether you’re curious about your own relationship with alcohol, navigating shame, or just trying to live more whole and present, this conversation will speak to you. Jenn’s wisdom, warmth, and humor make this such a fun episode.

Follow Jenn: https://www.instagram.com/sobersis.

Explore the Sober Sis community: https://sobersis.com.

Follow Jon: https://www.instagram.com/jonseidl/.

Order the book, Confessions of a Christian Alcoholic: www.christianalcoholic.com.

Watch this episode and get daily motivation: www.theveritasdaily.com.

Support the Show: https://www.jonseidl.com/

Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Brenton Sconce had the life he thought he wanted. After serving in the church, he finally got the chance to lead his own. Life was good. Until it wasn't.

After leading his new congregation through COVID, it quickly became evident that there was unrest and he wasn't the fit he thought he was. So he pulled the plug and moved back home with his wife and child. Pretty quickly, the feelings of failure set in and his drinking picked up. And up. And up. Until he was stopping at the gas station in the morning just to have a few tall boys before he started his day. And that was just the beginning.

One day, he found himself rummaging through his wife's purse for change to support his habit. And after lying about it, he finally realized he needed help.

In this emotional episode of "Confessions of a Christian Alcoholic," Brenton tells his full story—from an early divorce, to pastor, to alcoholic, and eventually to rehab. He explains the struggles he faced as a pastor dealing with addiction, the importance of community and accountability in recovery, and how his identity played a significant role in his relationship with alcohol. He also emphasizes the need for vulnerability and outlines how the church can respond to addiction and the those Christians struggling with vices.

And he ultimately reminds us that no one is immune from addiction—not even a pastor.

Today, Brenton is working on a non-profit to help those struggling, is raising money for a rehab facility scholarship, and runs the incredibly funny Instagram account, Office Recovery.

Follow Brenton: https://www.instagram.com/officerecovery/.

Follow Jon: https://www.instagram.com/jonseidl/.

Order the book, Confessions of a Christian Alcoholic: www.christianalcoholic.com.

Get show updates and daily motivation: www.theveritasdaily.com

Support the Show: https://www.jonseidl.com/

Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.