Today’s divisive society and political climate have been changing the concept of diversity, equity, and inclusion or DEI. Instead of bringing people together regardless of social status, age, belief, or skin color, it is slowly becoming a cuss word used to demean and hurt. HR/DEI practitioner Natalie Norfus utilizes her years of problem-solving experience to address this pushback that currently hurts growth, accessibility, and opportunity in every workplace. Joining Corinna Bellizzi, she explains how DEI, despite not having a one-size-fits-all model, is crucial in dismantling the white supremacy culture. Natalie also discusses how the lack of a clear definition for DEI has led to its weaponization and how company leaders can commit to shutting down such advances.

Guest: Saloni Doshi, CEO & Chief Sustainability Officer, EcoEnclose and featuring product packaging by ORLONutrition

What does truly sustainable packaging look like—and how can we move beyond “recyclable” to truly circular?

In this thought-provoking conversation, Corinna Bellizzi interviews Saloni Doshi, CEO of EcoEnclose, a trailblazing company dedicated to creating eco-friendly packaging that doesn't sacrifice performance or purpose. Together, they explore what it takes to reduce plastic use, elevate responsible sourcing, and build a business grounded in regenerative principles.

Key Topics Discussed:

• The hidden environmental costs of both plastic and paper packaging
• How EcoEnclose sources and evaluates next-gen fibers (like hemp, wheat straw & miscanthus)
• Why “compostable” plastics and bamboo solutions aren't always what they seem
• The journey to scaling algae ink and carbon-sequestering packaging
• The role of Extended Producer Responsibility (EPR) laws in reshaping our waste systems
• Circular thinking in practice: How businesses and consumers can close the loop

Episode Highlights:

• [03:45] Saloni’s journey from sustainable agriculture to packaging innovation
• [13:12] Breaking down “fiber hierarchy” and what makes packaging truly circular
• [21:50] The truth behind bamboo, bioplastics, and wishcycling
• [30:10] EcoEnclose’s algae ink breakthrough and collaboration with Living Ink
• [41:00] New developments: stamp ink, zero-waste adhesives, and the future of circular mailers
• [49:20] Final thoughts: balancing data, nuance, and idealism in sustainability decisions

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In this replay of episode 57, clipped for brevity and timely relevance, we bring you the final installment in our Regeneration Series, originally inspired by Paul Hawken’s seminal book, Regeneration: Ending the Climate Crisis in One Generation. As we head into Thanksgiving week and Giving Tuesday, this episode dives deep into the final theme of Hawken's book—Action and Connection—and explores the personal, practical, and planetary steps we can all take to regenerate life on Earth.

This replay includes a passionate reflection from host Corinna Bellizzi on her own climate action punch list, progress made, lessons learned, and the deeper motivations behind creating Care More Be Better. You’ll also hear Paul Hawken share his vision for the future, the inseparability of humans and nature, and the powerful role language and indigenous wisdom play in reshaping our climate narrative.

🌀 In This Episode, You’ll Learn:

• Why regeneration is humanity’s only viable path forward
• How carbon is not just a “problem” but a miraculous life-giving force
• The importance of changing our language around climate and nature
• How indigenous knowledge systems inform true sustainability
• Practical regenerative actions Corinna has taken—and what’s next
• What Regeneration.org/Nexus offers as a tool for action and connection

🌍 Corinna’s Personal Punch List: From capturing greywater and minimizing plastic purchases to switching banks away from fossil fuel funders, Corinna shares real-world changes she’s implemented to live more regeneratively—and how her list has evolved through this journey.

• Regeneration.org/Nexus – Explore solutions and connect with climate leaders
• Paul Hawken’s Books – Regeneration, Carbon: The Book of Life, Drawdown, and more

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A single cell of carbon contains trillions of molecules, and its role in connecting all life is immeasurable. American environmentalist Paul Hawken decided to study indigenous languages to further explore the beauty of the most versatile element on the planet that animates the entirety of the living world. Joining Corinna Bellizzi, he talks about his book “Carbon: The Book of Life” and how it opened his eyes to the fact that regeneration is the singular key to humanity’s survival. He stresses the importance of embracing regenerative agricultural practices, nature-based solutions, and indigenous knowledge to ensure the planet’s longevity and sustainability. Paul also explains why he considers “we” as the most dangerous pronoun and how to rethink our daily choices in a world addicted to overconsumption.

About Guest:

Paul Hawken starts ecological businesses, writes about nature and commerce, and consults with heads of state and CEOs on climatic, economic and ecological regeneration. He has written nine books published in 30 languages including six national and New York Times bestsellers: Growing a Business, The Next Economy, The Ecology of Commerce, Blessed Unrest, Drawdown and Regeneration: Ending the Climate Crisis In One Generation. He is the founder of Project Drawdown, Regeneration.org, and just completed his latest work, Carbon: The Book of Life which is published by Penguin Random House. It was released on March 18, 2025.

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Guest Website: https://paulhawken.com/

Guest Social: https://www.instagram.com/paulhawken/

Show Notes: Final audio

• 00:02:07 - Writing The Book ‘Carbon’
• 00:10:15 - The Growing Impact Of Regenerative Agriculture
• 00:21:57 - Regeneration: The Only Path Forward
• 00:34:46 - Living In A Consumerist And Capitalist Society
• 00:42:49 - Changing The Topography Of Living Spaces
• 00:52:24 - How Life Exists Within A Single Cell
• 00:59:40 - Some Regenerative Solutions From ‘Carbon’
• 01:07:05 - Episode Wrap-up And Closing Words

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