For this special episode of Beyond Barriers Podcast we talk with Dan and Sabrina Burnside who decided to leave the National Socialist Movement and the Far-right after 10 years. In this episode we dive into their reasons for joining and leaving, how their involvement affected their family and the road to redemption. Ultimately this is a message of hope - it's never too late to change your direction in life.

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Special guest Sean Gillespie shares his incredible story. From #abuse & #trauma to a lengthy prison sentence for #hate crimes to life altering positive change. Sean’s journey will shake you to your core and stir your soul. As a former neo-Nazi skinhead and member of the white supremacist organization, Aryan Nations, Mr. Gillespie's story will take you through an incredible path from a world of hate into a world of righteous change. A former leader, recruiter, organizer, propagandist, and violent terrorist for the white supremacist and neo-Nazi movement, he promoted hate, bigotry, and racism. He was sentenced to 39yrs in the Federal prison system for a racially motivated hate crime in 2004. Mr. Gillespie spent a total of 16 years in prison, 8 of which were served in America's most secure facility, A.D.X. Super-Maximum Control Unit. Mr. Gillespie was released from prison in 2020, after winning an appeal he filed pro se. Sean got a second chance on life and has been able to overcome the mistakes he made early on. After turning his back on the white supremacist movement in 2008, Mr. Gillespie has been able to do a considerable amount of work to combat and fight hatred and extremism. He has assisted in the teaching of criminology students and written numerous articles against hatred. Mr. Gillespie was featured in the award-winning documentary series 'Indivisible: Healing Hate' (2022, Paramount Plus) narrated by Mandy Patinkin, as well as news interviews both locally and nationally.

Jeff Schoep is the Founder of Beyond Barriers. From 1994 until early 2019, Jeff Schoep was the leader of the largest neo-Nazi organization in the United States, the National Socialist Movement (NSM). In March 2019 he became the highest profile former white nationalist to ever walk away from far-right extremism in the USA. Since then, Jeff has been an outspoken advocate against the ideology that he had been part of for 27 years, making him uniquely qualified to understand extremism and extremist ideologies. Jeff now works as an inspirational public speaker helping to educate communities and policy makers on how to effectively counter and prevent violent extremism. https://jeffschoep.com Follow Jeff Schoep on Social Media https://linktr.ee/jeffschoep

Jennifer Kreis is a survivor, warrior, truth seeker, and truth speaker. She is the daughter of August Kreis, who was once one of the most well known white supremacists in the USA. Throughout Jenn's teenage years she was forced to go on national TV talk shows and "by the grace of God hate did not consume and destroy my entire life." Follow Jenn Kreis: https://linktr.ee/jennkreis

Beyond Barriers is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization committed to a new approach of countering and preventing extremism. For more information: https://beyondbarriersusa.org To donate: https://giv.li/r8xtpc Media inquiries: info@beyondbarriersusa.org Follow Beyond Barriers: https://linktr.ee/beyondbarriersusa

Author and Host of RHE Podcast, Isaiah Perez, joins Jeff and Jenn for this episode of #beyondbarriers Podcast. For more on Isaiah and where to find his books: https://linktr.ee/isaiahdiesel

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Jeff Schoep is the Founder of Beyond Barriers. From 1994 until early 2019, Jeff Schoep was the leader of the largest neo-Nazi organization in the United States, the National Socialist Movement (NSM). In March 2019 he became the highest profile former white nationalist to ever walk away from far-right extremism in the USA. Since then, Jeff has been an outspoken advocate against the ideology that he had been part of for 27 years, making him uniquely qualified to understand extremism and extremist ideologies. Jeff now works as an inspirational public speaker helping to educate communities and policy makers on how to effectively counter and prevent violent extremism. https://jeffschoep.com https://linktr.ee/jeffschoep

Jennifer Kreis is a survivor, warrior, truth seeker, and truth speaker. She is the daughter of August Kreis, who was once one of the most well known white supremacists in the USA. Throughout Jenn's teenage years she was forced to go on national TV talk shows and "by the grace of God hate did not consume and destroy my entire life." Check Jenn out on Linktr.ee https://linktr.ee/jennkreis

Beyond Barriers is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization committed to a new approach of countering and preventing extremism. For more information on Beyond Barriers: https://beyondbarriersusa.org or https://linktr.ee/beyondbarriersusaTo donate to Beyond Barriers: https://giv.li/r8xtpc For media inquiries: info@beyondbarriersusa.org

Beyond Barriers Podcast is produced by Beyond Barriers Media in association with Underground Media Productions.