This meditation, titled Evolutionary Remembering, has been adapted from the book, Thinking Like a Mountain, and read aloud by Lisa Christel. We thank Lisa and the beautiful birds that gave life to the audio for this special episode. We also thank John Seed (interviewed in our last episode), Joanna Macy, Pat Flemming, and Arne Ness, for bringing this book into the world.

In this special episode of Animals & Us – Voices of a New Paradigm, we share an impromptu conversation with legendary environmental activist and deep ecologist John Seed.

John has spent over four decades defending rainforests and advocating for the Earth - not only through direct action, but by inviting us to transform how we see ourselves in relation to the natural world. As the founder of the Rainforest Information Centre and co-author of Thinking Like a Mountain, John’s work has inspired a generation of changemakers, spiritual ecologists, and everyday people yearning for reconnection.

We speak with John about the roots of the Deep Ecology movement, the role of grief and love in environmental action, and the power of the Council of All Beings workshops to awaken ecological identity. Our conversation explores what it means to shift from seeing the Earth as “other” to remembering that we are the Earth, and that our activism, care, and listening arise from that sacred belonging.

This is a gentle yet powerful episode with someone whose life reminds us that protecting the planet is not just an act of urgency - but of reverence.

Follow John's work at:

https://www.facebook.com/johnseed.deepecology https://www.instagram.com/johnseed_deepecology/

Substack at https://substack.com/@johnseed

Occasional blog posts at htpps://johnseed.net

Schedule, podcasts, essays, films etc. at https://rainforestinfo.org.au/johnseed.htm