Andrew Patrick from The Carolyn jumped on the mic with me this week, and we got into a really honest, really funny conversation about what it takes to keep a band going when you’ve also got a day job, a life, and a limited supply of vacation days.

We talked about the band’s new single and upcoming album (which they announced literally right after we recorded), how they’ve never really followed the typical release playbook, and what it’s like trying to stay visible online without feeling like a walking algorithm. Andrew doesn’t fake it—he just tells it like it is. Which includes European fans who’ll give you a place to crash, feed you dinner, and then casually tell you your voice sucked that night.

We also got into the band’s sound, which pulls from a lot of directions without losing its identity, and the very unromantic origin of their name (it involves a dorm, some questionable decisions, and zero branding foresight). Somehow it all adds up.

Other things we covered:

• FEST in Gainesville and why Andrew would move there if he could
• The strange warmth of Florida punk
• Orgcore, sort of
• His love for Charli XCX (pre-brat, too)
• And a Florida band called Rutterkin you should definitely check out

I’ve been a fan of The Carolyn for a while, but this conversation made me appreciate what they’re building even more.

–– Hayden

Songs in this episode (in order):
Nosebleeds, A.M., Case Infinito

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