Genevieve LeMarchal: 00:05 It's Genevieve LeMarchal. I am so excited to have you guys here today to join me for this conversation with Tim Draper. The interesting thing about my conversation with Tim today is this actually a very personal conversation. We didn't talk that much about business. We didn't talk that much about bitcoin. We didn't talk that much about venture capital. Talked a little bit, but not a lot. We talked mostly about family, about growing up, about values and about legacy. I recently became a mother and was very excited to be able to share some of these stories and experiences and hear about Tim's growing up. So Tim has a lot of notoriety. I almost don't even need to introduce him. He is a very, very well known venture capitalist and a from a multigenerational family of VCs. He and I am excited to share our conversation with him today with you guys. So let's dive in. Let's talk about. So your upbringing. You know, I did a little bit of my homework. You pounded the pavement selling oysters and. Tim Draper: 01:13 The troubling oyster show. Genevieve LeMarchal: 01:15 I sold rubber bands as a child. So you know, a penny each or a bag for a dollar. So throwing yourself in. I think I also read some story about your mother dropping you off at the base of Mount Shasta or something along those lines. Tim Draper: 01:29 She dropped your way home at the base of Mount Rainier. Genevieve LeMarchal: 01:33 Mount Rainier. Tim Draper: 01:33 And you had to find at 14 with another friend. And we had 60 pound backpacks with just sleeping bags and freeze dried food for a week. And we had to, we had to find our way to this location. We had to hike 66 miles around to this other location. And my friend and I, we were just, I, we were so lucky we made it. But I've never been in better shape. I remember going and playing football after that and I couldn't believe how strong I was or how weak everybody else was because I had done that. So I highly recommend strapping 60 pounds to your back and, and your kids. Genevieve LeMarchal: 02:29 Backs and jumping them off on the mountain. Yeah, well, so I mean we have. Tim Draper: 02:34 Survival training at Draper University, the school I created for entrepreneurs. And, and we take them up to wherever and do do crazy things with Navy Seals and special forces and Army Rangers and Marines and whoever. And, and I, three of my kids, I said hey, you gotta join Draper University. You gotta go, go through it. One of them did. Our, our youngest did. But the other three said, dad, I've been through survival training. I'm your kid. Genevieve LeMarchal: 03:13 That's funny. I can kind of empathize my family. My grandfather was in the military also, and so I was raised by a Navy fighter pilot. And, you know, he didn't go easy on us. And, you know, he was the type of guy who would pitch a tent in the rain and we were going to sleep in it and we were going to have a nice time. Oh, yeah, it was always fun. Yeah. Tim Draper: 03:33 Well, we, we do sort of have, I mean, some strange things that we did, I did with the kids. We had something called death ball. We had a swimming pool and a basketball hoop, and there were no rules. The goal was just to get the ball into the hoop and. And it's amazing how inventive everybody gets when you don't have a lot of rules. When you don't set up any rules. Yeah, you had to wear goggles so nobody got poked in the eye. But it was. We eventually loved it so much we created death ball tournaments. We had, you know, my daughter brought all these kids from ucla water polo team, and death ball became this huge thing. But it was a thing for me. I was just thinking, you, you know, I want my kids to survive. I want them to be able to live through whatever it is. And a little bit of toughness is not a bad thing. I, you know, I know everybody's walks on eggshells now and the woke culture and all that stuff seems to make sense to some people, not to me. Genevieve LeMarchal: 04:57 I have a question for you then about that. So I was speaking with an athlete. Tim Draper: 05:01 I think people need a tough skin to survive. Genevieve LeMarchal: 05:04 I would agree. Tim Draper: 05:05 They gotta understand what's out there and they gotta feel it. They can't be. It can't be hidden from them and that. And I think it's important to be, to, you know, raise your children to realize it's not all going to be easy. Yeah, you're going to go through all sorts of fits and start. Look at what you're going through. Having a baby, trying to raise a fund, doing one. Yes, whatever. That can't be easy. Genevieve LeMarchal: 05:38 No. Tim Draper: 05:39 But clearly you're driven to do it and clearly you're tough enough to keep it going. If, if you want to raise a kid to get along and go along, fine. But we're trying to raise kids who, who become heroes, who become extraordinary, who, who drive new avenues, who, you know, pioneer a world that's better than the one we've got. And ...
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