You know that moment when you realize the things you once obsessed over just… don’t matter anymore? That’s exactly what happened to Katy and Jelena in their 30s. In this episode, they unpack what they’ve consciously chosen to leave behind. From outdated relationship norms to manipulative media, chasing trends, and staying silent in the face of injustice.

In this honest and funny conversation, Katy and Jelena dive into the complexities of motherhood. From the choice not to have children to the daily struggle of raising them. As two Eastern European millennial women they unpack the generational pressure to become a mother, the guilt around not wanting kids, and how womanhood has long been tied to parenthood. They reflect on their childhoods in the '90s, societal expectations, mental health, and how both paths are equally valid. Whether you’re a mom, thinking about becoming one, or totally over the idea...this episode is for you.

In their debut episode, Katy & Jelena get a little too loud about comparison, insecurity, and feeling like we’re falling behind. With raw honesty and signature Eastern European attitude, they unpack how beauty standards, social media highlights, and societal pressure mess with our heads.