This week on Unpacking with Jennifer, things get hilariously real—and unexpectedly raw—as Jennifer sits down with her dear friend and longtime client, Rachel Souverain. What starts with laughter and shoe-shaming (yes, we’re talking Crocs) quickly unfolds into something much deeper.

From their first meeting (which may or may not have involved a little white lie to Rachel’s husband) to sharing the wild ride of motherhood, aging, and organizing under fire, this episode unpacks more than just closets. It’s about the heartbreaks no one prepares you for, the moments you wouldn’t wish on anyone, and the quiet tears shed between the chaos.

They talk about parenting through the pressures of modern life, how “The Reginas of the world” (yes, those Plastics still exist) are now affecting their daughters, and how to help raise girls with resilience and grace in the face of middle school mean girl madness.

Through laughter, vulnerability, and more than a few curse words, Jennifer and Rachel share a friendship forged in fire drills and real life—offering a heartfelt, unfiltered look at what it means to survive, support, and show up for each other.

Hit play for a rollercoaster of honesty, healing, and the kind of conversation we all need.

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