Retired Chief Ken Harrison joins Eric to unpack the mental health challenges of the fire service, the struggle to separate work from home life, and the impact that culture has on families. They dive into leadership, organizational courage, and why support from the top matters. Eric shares how the support from Ken, as his fire chief during one of his darkest moments, played a critical role in saving his life. Ken also shares his personal journey, tools for coping with burnout, and how first responders can stay grounded and push through the hard times. This episode is packed with honest insights, leadership lessons, and powerful takeaways for anyone navigating the fire service or supporting those who do. They also talk about retirement—and how finding purpose after the job ends can look different for everyone, depending on where life has taken them.

Dr. Alex Jabr joins Shane and Eric for a raw conversation on trust, emotional struggles, and the subconscious mind. They talk about the mental and emotional weight that comes with high-pressure roles and tough life experiences, the psychology behind grief and delivering difficult news, and how to build trust in a world that often teaches people to shut down. They also cover healing techniques like ketamine-assisted therapy and explore how meaningful relationships are formed through vulnerability and intentional language.

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