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E113: Understanding Trump: From Immigration to Elon w/ Maxwell Meyer & Indian Bronson
- 2025/01/11
- 再生時間： 1 時間 17 分
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Join political analyst and commentator Maxwell Meyer and friend of the podcast Indian Bronson for an insider's look at the evolving dynamics between Trump's tech and nationalist supporters, cutting through online drama to examine how both sides might find common ground on immigration, talent, and America's future. Their discussion offers fresh insights into why unlikely allies can coexist in Trump's coalition. This is part 3 to Bronson's earlier Moment of Zen episodes, Debating Immigration Policy and Bronson vs Everyone: H-1B Wars, Elon, and Trump Max Meyer is Policy Chief of Staff to Joe Lonsdale and a writer at 8VC. — 📰 Be notified early when Turpentine's drops new publication: https://www.turpentine.co/exclusiveaccess 🙏 Help shape our show by taking our quick listener survey at https://bit.ly/TurpentinePulse — SPONSOR: NETSUITE | ORACLE ☁️ Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) is a single platform for your infrastructure, database, application development, and AI needs. OCI has four to eight times the bandwidth of other clouds and offers one consistent price. Oracle is offering to cut your cloud bill in half. See if your company qualifies at https://oracle.com/turpentine/ — RECOMMENDED PODCAST: Check out Modern Relationships, where Erik Torenberg interviews tech power couples and leading thinkers to explore how ambitious people actually make partnerships work. This season's guests include: Delian Asparouhov & Nadia Asparouhova, Kristen Berman & Phil Levin, Rob Henderson, and Liv Boeree & Igor Kurganov. Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1786227593 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5hJzs0gDg6lRT6r10mdpVg YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ModernRelationshipsPod — RELATED LINKS: Debating Immigration Policy: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4xR2aTcekJ60GFgTXMKGy4?si=DjML853wSLOUTmWAyqgv9g Everyone: H-1B Wars, Elon, and Trump: https://open.spotify.com/episode/79JNQHaxTKEfhkWL1pT1NH?si=NqEewJYuTlqoYDqpfxChhw Indian Bronson Substack: https://indianbronson.substack.com/ Max Meyer's Arena Magazine: https://arenamag.com/ — X / TWITTER: @mualphaxi (Max Meyer) @Indian_Bronson (Indian Bronson) @eriktorenberg (Erik) @turpentinemedia @MOZ_Podcast — HIGHLIGHTS: I. Tech/Nationalist Right Conflict & Alliance Online clash over immigration policy. Debate on whether the tech/nationalist alliance is genuine or just expedient. Core agreement on stopping illegal immigration, but disagreements on legal routes. II. Trump & Immigration Trump's long-held views on attracting high-skilled talent. Discussion of H1B visa program abuse and potential reforms. Trump's stance as pro-legal immigration, but anti-illegal immigration. III. Key Themes Online vs. reality: online debates are often more extreme. Trump & Musk: Similarities in their hands-on approach and detail-oriented style. Power: Elon Musk’s unique influence in the Trump orbit. Critique of "Hick Lib" politicians like Tim Walz, and his inauthenticity. IV. Predictions Democrats likely to do well in 2026 House elections. Focus on deportations under Trump. Continued alliance between Trump and Musk. V. Nuances of Immigration Debate Discussion on the usefulness of Country Caps. Unintended consequences of affirmative action. Welfare differences between US and Europe. The importance of high-skilled immigration to economic growth, with caveats. VI. Closing Thoughts Real conversation between powerful people took place. Emphasis on balancing economic benefits with the idea of America as a nation with shared history. Emphasis on trusting figures like Trump, J.D. Vance and those around them.